DaniSRB 896 Posted March 9, 2016 #11 Share Posted March 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: Alexander Markin was tested positive for Meldonium after the match against Germany at the european qualification tournament, this might mean that Russia wont be allowed to play in Rio, so Germany might get a second chance to qualify and France could qualify directly. I hope that it wont happen, Russia didnt win because of one doped player and they deserve to be in Rio. We threw away the Olympics in the match against Poland, so we dont really deserve to be in Rio in my opinion. If they find a second russian player who was doped, then Russia will definitely be suspended. during the european qualifications it was actually legal, so because of this they can't be definitely suspended Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vojthas 947 Posted March 9, 2016 #12 Share Posted March 9, 2016 1 minute ago, OlympicsFan said: Alexander Markin was tested positive for Meldonium after the match against Germany at the european qualification tournament, this might mean that Russia wont be allowed to play in Rio, so Germany might get a second chance to qualify and France could qualify directly. I hope that it wont happen, Russia didnt win because of one doped player and they deserve to be in Rio. We threw away the Olympics in the match against Poland, so we dont really deserve to be in Rio in my opinion. If they find a second russian player who was doped, then Russia will definitely be suspended. You do deserve the Olympics, just because of the match against Poland and sensational bronze at World Champs. And the anti-doping rules are obvious - if one athlete from the team or in some sports relay is caught, the whole team is disqualified. I don't see the reason why this should be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoversaBR 281 Posted March 9, 2016 #13 Share Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OlympicsFan said: Alexander Markin was tested positive for Meldonium after the match against Germany at the european qualification tournament, this might mean that Russia wont be allowed to play in Rio, so Germany might get a second chance to qualify and France could qualify directly. I hope that it wont happen, Russia didnt win because of one doped player and they deserve to be in Rio. We threw away the Olympics in the match against Poland, so we dont really deserve to be in Rio in my opinion. If they find a second russian player who was doped, then Russia will definitely be suspended. I do not think that's possible, is it? Anyway, if by chance, accused other players ,Russia should be disqualified. Edited March 9, 2016 by hoversaBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 782 Posted March 9, 2016 #14 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Just now, DaniSRB said: during the european qualifications it was actually legal, so because of this they can't be definitely suspended Really? It became illegal at the start of 2016 and the qualification tournament was in January ... Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaniSRB 896 Posted March 9, 2016 #15 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Just now, OlympicsFan said: Really? It became illegal at the start of 2016 and the qualification tournament was in January ... opps, i don't know why i had feeling it was in december Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dareza 911 Posted March 9, 2016 #16 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Just now, Vojthas said: You do deserve the Olympics, just because of the match against Poland and sensational bronze at World Champs. And the anti-doping rules are obvious - if one athlete from the team or in some sports relay is caught, the whole team is disqualified. I don't see the reason why this should be changed. no... what about Sweden and Lativa in ice hockey in 2014? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 782 Posted March 9, 2016 #17 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Just now, Vojthas said: You do deserve the Olympics, just because of the match against Poland and sensational bronze at World Champs. And the anti-doping rules are obvious - if one athlete from the team or in some sports relay is caught, the whole team is disqualified. I don't see the reason why this should be changed. We are among the 8 best teams in the world, so you could say that we deserve to be in Rio, but everything was on our side (home advantage, we were leading against Poland) and we still managed to finish 4th, so this team obviously didnt have the nerves to do it and therefore doesnt deserve Rio in my opinion. I think the rule is as like that: 1 doping case: IOC has to decide if they want to suspend the team 2 doping cases: The team has to be suspended Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vojthas 947 Posted March 9, 2016 #18 Share Posted March 9, 2016 It looks like the second Russian player to be caught is just a matter of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoversaBR 281 Posted March 9, 2016 #19 Share Posted March 9, 2016 Just now, OlympicsFan said: We are among the 8 best teams in the world, so you could say that we deserve to be in Rio, but everything was on our side (home advantage, we were leading against Poland) and we still managed to finish 4th, so this team obviously didnt have the nerves to do it and therefore doesnt deserve Rio in my opinion. I think the rule is as like that: 1 doping case: IOC has to decide if they want to suspend the team 2 doping cases: The team has to be suspended Of those eight teams, four were exactly the semifinalists of this European qualifying. So a team would have to be out of the Rio, were unfortunately you. So, I think your team deserves to be in Rio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlympicsFan 782 Posted March 9, 2016 #20 Share Posted March 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, hoversaBR said: I do not think that's possible, is it? Anyway, if by chance, accused other players ,Russia should be disqualified. Possible? Yes Realistic? No I think our only chance would be if a second russian player will get caught. Suspending Russia would create tons of problems: Would Bulgaria be allowed to "replay" the semifinal against Germany? Would Germany be allowed to "replay" the final against France or would France qualify directly? This all would be too complicated, so they will probably change nothing, unless a 2nd player gets caught, then they will be forced to act. Attachment is the great fabricator of illusions; reality can be obtained only by someone who is detached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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