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Athletics IAAF World Championships 2017

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OlympicsFan    227
vor 2 Stunden schrieb heywoodu:

Cheers all around, Semenya is going for double gold, fantastic :woohoo:

http://www.iol.co.za/sport/athletics/breaking-caster-semenya-set-to-race-for-double-gold-10467202

And that is good news, because ... ? (Serious question)

I dont think that Semenya will get the double gold and i still dont think that Semenya will do the 1500 m 100%, especially if it takes place before the 800 m. If this becomes another jogfest with a very fast 800, then Semenya would be the favorite, but if the girls go for sub 4 pace, Semenya shouldnt have a chance to win it. Muir, Hassan, Kipyegon and Dibaba all have a PB that is at least 5 seconds faster than that of Semenya.

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Gianlu33    842

:AUS TEAM AUSTRALIA :AUS 

MEN TEAM

400m: Steven Solomon

800m: Peter Bol

1500m: Ryan Gregson, Luke Mathews

5000m: Patrick Tiernan, Morgan McDonald, Sam McEntee

10000m: Patrick Tiernan

110m Hurdles: Nicholas Hough

Pole Vault: Kurtis Marschall

Long Jump: Henry Frayne, Fabrice Lapierre

Shot Put: Damien Birkinhead

Javellin Throw: Hamish Peacock

Decathlon: Cedric Dubler

Marathon: Brad Milosevic, Josh Harris, Jack Colreavy

20km Race Walk: Dane Bird-Smith, Rhydian Cowley

50km Race Wakl: Jared Tallent

Relay: 4x100m

 

WOMEN TEAM

200m: Ella Nelson

400m: Morgan Mitchell

800m: Georgia Griffith

1500m: Linden Hall, Zoe Buckman, Georgia Griffith

5000m: Madeline Hills, Eloise Wellings

10000m: Eloise Wellings, Madeline Hills

3000m Steeplechase: Genevieve LaCaze

100m Hurdles: Sally Pearson

400m Hurdles: Lauren Wells

Long Jump: Brooke Stratton

Discus Throw: Dani Stevens

Marathon: Jessica Trengove, Milly Clark, Sinead Diver

20km Race Walk: Regan Lamble, Bekki Smith, Rachel Tallent

Relay: 4x400m

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Gianlu33    842

:AUT TEAM AUSTRIA :AUT 

MEN TEAM

Discus Throw: Lukas Weißhaidinger

Decathlon: Dominik Distelberger

Marathon: Valentin Pfeil

 

WOMEN TEAM

Epthathlon: Ivona Dadic, Verena Preiner

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Gianlu33    842

:BAR TEAM BARBADOS :BAR 

MEN TEAM

200m: Burkheart Ellis

 

WOMEN TEAM

200m: Sada Williams

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Werloc    833
3 hours ago, Gianlu33 said:

If anyone want help me whit Team Selection, he/she will be welcome :evil: In the afternoon i'll post some nations, for sure AUS (today published list :clap:), AUT, BAR, BEL and BRA. If i'll have time i will post more team :d 

Honestly, not even our federation knows whose going to these championships. So many athletes hid their injuries till the final moment and some are waiting for qualifications through rating.

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Gianlu33    842
16 minutes ago, Werloc said:

Honestly, not even our federation knows whose going to these championships. So many athletes hid their injuries till the final moment and some are waiting for qualifications through rating.

Damn, it's very sad :( I'll wait official lists

 

1 hour ago, OlympicsFan said:

Great work, i only looked at the german team so far and there is one tiny mistake: I think it should be "Fate Tola" in womens marathon.

 

 

Fixed  :yes

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Bohemia    303

:FRA TEAM FRANCE :FRA

 

MEN'S TEAM

100m: Jimmy Vicaut

200m: Jeffrey John, Christophe Lemaître

400m: Teddy Atine-Venel, Mamadou-Elimane Hanne

800m: Pierre-Ambroise Bosse, Samir Dahmani

1500m: Mahiedine Mekhissi

110m Hurdles: Garfield Darien, Aurel Manga

400m Hurdles: Victor Coroller, Mamadou Kasse Hann, Ludvy Vaillant

3000m Steeplechase: Mahiedine Mekhissi, Yoann Kowal

Pole Vault: Axel Chapelle, Renaud Lavillenie, Valentin Lavillenie, Kevin Menaldo

Triple Jump: Melvin Raffin, Jean-Marc Pontvianne, Benjamin Compaoré

Discus Throw: Lolassonn Djouhan

Hammer Throw: Quentin Bigot

Decathlon: Kevin Mayer, Bastien Auzeil

20km Race Walk: Kevin Campion

50km Race Walk: Yohann Diniz

Relay: 4x100m, 4x400m

 

WOMEN'S TEAM

100m: Carolle Zahi, Orphée Neola

200m: Estelle Raffai

400m: Elea-Mariama Diarra, Floria Gueï, Deborah Sananes

3000m Steeplechase: Maeva Danois

Pole Vault: Ninon Guillon-Romarin

Triple Jump: Jeannine Assani Issouf, Eloyse Lesueur

Shot Put: Jessica Cerival

Discus Throw: Melina Robert-Michon

Hammer Throw: Alexandra Tavernier

Heptathlon: Antoinette Nana-Djimou

20km Race Walk: Emilie Menuet

Relay: 4x100m, 4x400m

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heywoodu    2,985
3 hours ago, OlympicsFan said:

And that is good news, because ... ? (Serious question)

I dont think that Semenya will get the double gold and i still dont think that Semenya will do the 1500 m 100%, especially if it takes place before the 800 m. If this becomes another jogfest with a very fast 800, then Semenya would be the favorite, but if the girls go for sub 4 pace, Semenya shouldnt have a chance to win it. Muir, Hassan, Kipyegon and Dibaba all have a PB that is at least 5 seconds faster than that of Semenya.

Your sarcasm meter broke, it's not good news at all. 

 

I agree that a sub-4 pace should take away most of her chances, but the main problem is I doubt they'll go for a sub-4 pace...it's happened so often that fast athletes let good "sprinters" win by not running a high enough pace. Semenya's PB is slightly worrying btw, it's only 4:01 but she did so very soon after a fast 800 or 400 (not sure which) and while almost jogging...

 

I'm a bit hopeful because in the 800m she has shown some signs of being remotely beatable, so who knows. 

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heywoodu    2,985

Dutch team

Name Event
Sharona Bakker 100 meter hurdles
Melissa Boekelman shot put
Liemarvin Bonevacia 4x100 meter
Eefje Boons 100 meter hurdles
Pieter Braun decathlon
Nadine Broersen heptathlon
Wouter Brus 4x100 meter
Taymir Burnet 4x100 meter
Giovanni Codrington 4x100 meter
Richard Douma 1.500 meter
Madiea Ghafoor 4x100 meter, 4x400 meter
Sifan Hassan 800 meter, 1.500 meter, 5.000 meter
Eva Hovenkamp 4x400 meter
Marije van Hunenstijn 4x100 meter
Maureen Koster 1.500 meter
Susan Krumins 5.000 meter, 10.000 meter
Thijmen Kupers 800 meter
Nicky van Leuveren 4x400 meter
Churandy Martina 200 meter, 4x100 meter
Hensley Paulina 4x100 meter
Jamile Samuel 100 meter, 4x100 meter
Tessa van Schagen 4x100 meter
Dafne Schippers 100 meter, 200 meter, 4x100 meter
Naomi Sedney 100 meter, 4x100 meter
Eelco Sintnicolaas decathlon
Sanne Verstegen 800 meter
Anouk Vetter heptathlon
Nadine Visser 100 meter hurdles, heptathlon
Menno Vloon pole vault
Laura de Witte 4x400 meter
Lisanne de Witte 400 meter, 4x400 meter

 

Men are in Italic, women are not :p 

 

 

 

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OlympicsFan    227
vor 36 Minuten schrieb heywoodu:

Your sarcasm meter broke, it's not good news at all. 

 

I agree that a sub-4 pace should take away most of her chances, but the main problem is I doubt they'll go for a sub-4 pace...it's happened so often that fast athletes let good "sprinters" win by not running a high enough pace. Semenya's PB is slightly worrying btw, it's only 4:01 but she did so very soon after a fast 800 or 400 (not sure which) and while almost jogging...

 

I'm a bit hopeful because in the 800m she has shown some signs of being remotely beatable, so who knows. 

1) My theory is that she competes in the 1500 m to get beaten, so that her 800 m victory wont raise as many eyebrows ... at least thats what i hope. On the other hand she might think "IAAF will soon force me to take my pills again, so i will try to win as much as possible as long as i still can".

2) You should keep in mind that she was probably in a much better shape when she ran 4:01, i think she ran about 50.5 around the same time, this season she only did something like 51.5. I also dont think that its a coincidence that (almost) all the high-testosterone female runners in history specialized on the 800 m, in other events its probably harder for them to do well.

3) I dont really have any hate for her, although it irritates me that she apparently decided to piss off twice as many people by doing that double. You would hope that she was more "humble", understanding her position and that of all her competitors. Its up to IAAF to provide a level playing field for all the athletes, its not Semenyas fault that they dont do their job. All her competitors shouldnt aim their hate at her, this doesnt help anyone. I hope that some of them "grow some balls" and protest the race, by either not competing at all or by just standing still and letting Semenya run her own race, as soon as she finished the race, all the girls can battle it out. Everyone wants more fairness, but no one really wants to fight for it/give up something for it.

4) Its funny that almost all the 1500 m greats (Hassan, Muir, probably Dibaba) are also entered in the 5000 m, apparently they try to run from Semenya, sadly the best 800 m runners cant do the same, because none of them would have a shot at the 400 m. I think Kipyegon is the only one of the medal favorites who will only do the 1500, so she should be interested in running Semenya out of her shoes, which is probably good news for someone like Muir, because Kipyegon probably wont be able to sit and kick like she did in Rio. I think womens 1500 will be extremely fast, even if Semenya wont compete, Muir basically announced that she will go for a much faster pace, not allowing something like in Rio to happen again. I think there are currently at least 5 girls capable of sub 3:58, so this could really be good ...

Edited by OlympicsFan

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Gianlu33    842

:BEL TEAM BELGIUM :BEL 

MEN TEAM

400m: Kevin Borlée, Jonathan Borlée

1500m: Ismael Debjani

5000m: Bashir Abdi, Soufiane Bouchikhi

Pole Vault: Arnaud Art

Discus Throw: Philip Milanov

Decathlon: Thomas Van Der Plaetsen

Marathon: Abdelhadi El Hachimi

Relay: 4x400m

 

WOMEN TEAM

100m Hurdles:Anne Zagré

High Jump: Nafissatou Thiam

Heptathlon: Nafissatou Thiam

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stefanbg    83

:BUL TEAM BULGARIA :BUL

 

MEN'S TEAM

3000m Steeplechase: Mitko Tsenov

High Jump: Tihomir Ivanov

Triple Jump: Georgi Tsonov, Momchil Karailiev

 

WOMEN'S TEAM

100m: Ivet Lalova-Collio

200m: Ivet Lalova-Collio

Triple Jump: Gabriela Petrova

Shot Put: Radoslava Mavrodieva

 

No Mirela Demireva (silver at the Rio Olympics). She is in awful shape, not capable to jump over 1.90 whatsoever.

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