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This is what the quota situation looks like after the first of four world cups, excluding the time ranking which ads 16 places for the 500m/1000m/1500m, 8 places for the 3000/5000m, 4 places for the 5000/10000m and 2 places for the team pursuit.

 

Max number of athletes is 3 per event for the 500m, 1000m, 1500m and the 3000/5000m while it's 2 per event for the 5000/10000m and the mass start. A country can have up to ten skaters if they qualify in every event, otherwise the limit is eight.

 

Women:

 

  500m 1000m 1500m 3000m 5000m MS TP Max
:AUT  1 1       2   4
:BLR            1   1
:CAN  3 2 3 2 1 2 X 10
:CHN  2 1       2   5
:CZE 1 1 2 1 1 2   8

:DEN 

          1   1
:GER      1 2   1 X 4
:ITA            2   2
:JPN  3 3 3 3 2 2 X 10
:KAZ  1 1           2
:KOR  3 1       1 X 5
:NED  1 3 3 3 2 2 X 10
:NOR  1 1 1         3
:POL    1 1     1 X 3
:RUS  2 2 3 3 2 1   8
:SUI            1   1
:TPE    1           1
:GBR            1   1
:USA  2 2 3 2   2   8

 

Men:

 

  500m 1000m 1500m 5000m 10000m MS TP Max
:BLR      1     1   2
:BEL      1     1   2
:CAN  3 2 1 2 1 1 X 10
:COL           1   1
:DEN            2   2
:FIN  1 1           2
:FRA  1 1   1 1 1   3
:GER  1 1   2 1     5
:ITA        2 1 1 X 4
:JPN  3 1 2 1   2   8
:KAZ            1   1
:KOR  3 3 1     2 X 9
:LAT      1     1   2
:NED  3 3 3 3 2 2   8
:NZL        1 1 2 X 4
:NOR  1 1 3 2 1 1 X 9
:POL  1 1 2     1   5
:RUS  2 3 3 2   1 X 10
:SUI            1   1
:USA  2 3 3     2   8

 

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I wouldn't be surprised if 'we' end up with nobody in the women's 500m. It's very likely to have the lowest possible position in the Dutch 'selection matrix' since there's almost no medal chance anyway :p 

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52 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I wouldn't be surprised if 'we' end up with nobody in the women's 500m. It's very likely to have the lowest possible position in the Dutch 'selection matrix' since there's almost no medal chance anyway :p 

The Netherlands will definitively get quotas, probably 3. Keep in mind on top of the 20 athletes qualified by world cup ranking there are 16 spots available for the best performers in Calgary and Salt Lake City via the time ranking, it's not that hard for a good speed skating nation to qualify three spots in the 500/1000/1500.

 

The real question is if the Netherlands will send any 500m specialists or if they will simply use the 500m as a warm-up race. My guess is that they won't be sending any 500m specialists.

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6 hours ago, Nate River said:

The Netherlands will definitively get quotas, probably 3. Keep in mind on top of the 20 athletes qualified by world cup ranking there are 16 spots available for the best performers in Calgary and Salt Lake City via the time ranking, it's not that hard for a good speed skating nation to qualify three spots in the 500/1000/1500.

 

The real question is if the Netherlands will send any 500m specialists or if they will simply use the 500m as a warm-up race. My guess is that they won't be sending any 500m specialists.

That's what I meant :d 

 

It all depends on the 'selection matrix' and who will qualify in which distances. 

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Olympic time ranking for the women's 5000m and the men's 10000m (top 12, two per country):

 

Women:

  1. :GER Claudia Pechstein - 6:56.60
  2. :CAN Ivanie Blondin - 6:57.34
  3. :NED Esmee Visser - 6:58.04
  4. :CZE Martina Sáblíková - 6:59.95
  5. :CAN Isabelle Weidemann - 7:00.82
  6. :NED Irene Schouten - 7:01.03
  7. :RUS Natalia Voronia - 7:02.40
  8. :RUS Anna Yurakova - 7:06.33
  9. :JPN Nana Tagaki - 7:08.77
  10. :JPN Misaki Oshigiri - 7:09.56
  11. :BLR Marina Zueva - 7:11.39
  12. :USA Carlijn Schoutens - 7:11.45

Germany, Canada, the Netherlands and the Czech Republic are now guaranteed at least one quota each in the women's 5000m.

 

Men:

  1. :NED Sven Kramer - 12:50.97
  2. :CAN Ted-Jan Bloemen - 12:52.64
  3. :ITA Davide Ghiotto - 12:53.63
  4. :NED Jouke Hoogeveen - 12:56.62
  5. :RUS Alexander Rumyantsev - 12:57.45
  6. :ITA Nicola Tumolero - 13:02.11
  7. :NOR Sverre Lunde Pedersen - 13:02.42
  8. :GER Patrick Beckert - 13:04.97
  9. :NZL Peter Michael - 13:07.20
  10. :GER Moritz Geirseiter - 13:08.87
  11. :KOR Seung-Hoon Lee - 13:09.26
  12. :CAN Jordan Belchos - 13:10.30

The Netherlands is guaranteed two quotas (the maximum) in the men's 10000m. Canada and Italy are guaranteed at least one quota.

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This is what the quota situation looks like after the second of four world cups. I exclude the time ranking for all events except the men's 10000m and the women's 5000m.

 

Max number of athletes is 3 per event for the 500m, 1000m, 1500m and the 3000/5000m while it's 2 per event for the 5000/10000m and the mass start. A country can have up to ten skaters if they qualify in every event, otherwise the limit is eight.

 

Women:

  500m 1000m 1500m 3000m 5000m MS TP MAX
:AUT  1 1       2   4
                 
:BLR        1 1 1   3
:CAN  3 2 3 2 2 2 X 10
:CHN  2 2 1     2   7
:CZE  1 1 1 1 1 2   7
:DEN            1   1
:GBR            1   1
:GER      1 1 1 1 X 4
:ITA        1   2   3
:JPN  3 3 3 2 2 2 X 10
:KOR  3         1 X 4
:NED  1 3 3 3 2 2 X 10
:NOR  1 1 1         3
:POL    1 2     1 X 4
:RUS  2 3 3 3 2 1   8
:SUI            1   1
:TPE    1       1   1
:USA  3 2 2 2 1 2   8
                 

 

Men:

  500m 1000m 1500m 5000m 10000m MS TP MAX
:BLR    1       1   2
:BEL            1   1
:CAN  3 2 2 2 2 1 X 10
:COL            1   1
:DEN            2   2
:FIN  1 1           2
:FRA        1   1   2
:GER  1 2   2 2     7
:ITA        3 2 1 X 6
:JPN  3 1 3     2   8
:KAZ            1   1
:KOR  3 2 1 1 1 2 X 10
:LAT      1     1   2
:NED  3 3 3 3 2 2   8
:NZL        1 1 2 X 4
:NOR  1 1 3 2 1 1 X 9
:POL  1 1 1     1   4
:RUS  2 3 3 1 1 1 X 10
:SUI            1   1
:USA  1 3 3     2   8
                 

 

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