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2024 and 2028 Olympic Games Host Cities Election

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dcro    972

It can be awarded in case of exceptional circumstance. Every IOC member agreeing about it is indeed an exceptional circumstance.

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Dmitry    30

Cities which maybe would like to try 2028 bid acoording to the IOC rules now even will not have a chance. Just because IOC changed their rules after the point, when the game started. IOC broke fair play rules. But nothing new.

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dcro    972
15 minutes ago, Dmitry said:

Cities which maybe would like to try 2028 bid acoording to the IOC rules now even will not have a chance. Just because IOC changed their rules after the point, when the game started. IOC broke fair play rules. But nothing new.

 

And yet someone like Isinbayeva very much agreed with the proposal in her speech. :p

 

Assuming that Paris would win 2024 alone, who would enter 2028 bidding (besides probably USA)? Australia already said they don't plan to bid any time soon. Africa/South America (and other developing nations) are definitely not encouraged after Rio. Asia hosted a lot of them recently. So that leaves North America vs Europe (European chances would be diminished after Paris 2024, and yet you would very likely once again have a lot of cancelled European bids, like Italy who pulled out from both 2020 and 2024...). Situation in Europe is so bad that no one wanted to host 2022 Winter Olympics. They really just needed to enter and they would certainly beat the Asian bids, practically guaranteed victory for any remotely serious bid.

 

They didn't break the rules btw.

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Dmitry    30
1 hour ago, dcro said:

 

And yet someone like Isinbayeva very much agreed with the proposal in her speech. :p

 

Assuming that Paris would win 2024 alone, who would enter 2028 bidding (besides probably USA)? Australia already said they don't plan to bid any time soon. Africa/South America (and other developing nations) are definitely not encouraged after Rio. Asia hosted a lot of them recently. So that leaves North America vs Europe (European chances would be diminished after Paris 2024, and yet you would very likely once again have a lot of cancelled European bids, like Italy who pulled out from both 2020 and 2024...). Situation in Europe is so bad that no one wanted to host 2022 Winter Olympics. They really just needed to enter and they would certainly beat the Asian bids, practically guaranteed victory for any remotely serious bid.

 

They didn't break the rules btw.

That's not about she or somebody else said or about cities which will have Olympics. That's about the equal chance for everybody what they always promote.

 

Cities which maybe would like to bid 2028 Olympics were waiting to the start of the company like it have to be. Nobody really knows what will be (even if you will have only one bid for 2028 you can take your decision in the normal way). But what IOC decision looks like: "Cities, sorry, you were waiting in vain. Forget about your bidding for 2028. Now we don't care about how it had to work. You had to try 2024 bidding for being in 2028 battle. And we don't care about that we didn't say this previously".

 

And the most funny thing is "exceptional circumstances". I think in general exceptional circumstances are hurricane, tsunami or something like this.

 

IOC worked too bad last decades with how Olympics should be in the modern world and now almost no city will not bid for them. But IOC prefer to call this like "exceptional circumstances".

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dcro    972
20 minutes ago, Dmitry said:

And the most funny thing is "exceptional circumstances". I think in general exceptional circumstances are hurricane, tsunami or something like this.

 

How can hurricane or tsunami force IOC to award games prematurely? That has nothing to do about this, exceptional circumstance is about current climate in Olympic movement. As Agger said, this is an opportunity to re-evaluate the bidding in general. They were talking about changing Olympic charter and saying that Games can be awarded early if an IOC session decides to do so, but the general consensus was that having a full agreement about this was an exceptional circumstance. They wouldn't agree on this every time.

 

Besides, with this decision we will have a rare occurrence that 4 different continents will host 4 consecutive Olympics. I fail to see how all this can be a bad thing. Sure, somebody may have missed a chance, but the potential candidates for 2028 mostly included those who pulled out on this and/or some previous occassion (like Germany, Italy, Hungary...). Who's to say they wouldn't drop out again?

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George_D    45
30 minutes ago, LDOG said:

Which cities were waiting to bid for 2028 though?

Suppose Europe won 2024 (Paris) then for 2028 the race would going to be between Canada and USA

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Dmitry    30
2 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

How can hurricane or tsunami force IOC to award games prematurely? That has nothing to do about this, exceptional circumstance is about current climate in Olympic movement. As Agger said, this is an opportunity to re-evaluate the bidding in general. They were talking about changing Olympic charter and saying that Games can be awarded early if an IOC session decides to do so, but the general consensus was that having a full agreement about this was an exceptional circumstance. They wouldn't agree on this every time.

 

I mean what is really reason of current climate in Olympic movement? The main thing is not circumstances but IOC, I think.

 

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Besides, with this decision we will have a rare occurrence that 4 different continents will host 4 consecutive Olympics. I fail to see how all this can be a bad thing. Sure, somebody may have missed a chance, but the potential candidates for 2028 mostly included those who pulled out on this or some previous occassion (like Germany, Italy, Hungary...). Who's to say they wouldn't drop out again?

The way how they did their decision is wrong. Because there are no equal chance for every city like it should be. That's bad.

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dcro    972
33 minutes ago, Dmitry said:

 

I mean what is really reason of current climate in Olympic movement? The main thing is not circumstances but IOC, I think.

 

The way how they did their decision is wrong. Because there are no equal chance for every city like it should be. That's bad.

 

This idea has been going around for months though. If someone was really doing some serious work about bidding they would have stepped out, or an IOC member from that nation would have said something today.

 

Unfair would be having this decision made behind close doors, in a heat of the moment.

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George_D    45

ΙΟC is a joke. The new sports added to 2020 program, the whole procedure for the selection, everything is done for the big man and the chicks he has around him

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intoronto    154

Both LA and Paris said they would not bid for 2028, so this decision by the IOC is smart. Its not like there are cities lining up to host...

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