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Equestrian 2016 Discussion Thread

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dcro    2,704

Hazel Shannon won it with a clear round! Seems like a nice prospect for the future Aussie teams. :) With Adelaide 4* completed, eventing very much goes into hibernation until next year.

 

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dcro    2,704

:EGY Abdel Said won Jumping World Cup in Verona. :yikes:

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Gianlu33    894
15 hours ago, dcro said:

:EGY Abdel Said won Jumping World Cup in Verona. :yikes:

It's a real surprise.. Italian media said that the Verona's circuits was the "Devil's circuits" but a lot outsiders qualified for the barrage. So, it was a very exiting race :p 

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dcro    2,704

FEI General Assembly starts in a couple of days in Tokyo, where everything about new competition formats will be decided.

 

Jumping riders are meanwhile doing everything to stop FEI from cutting team size from 4 to 3 (with all scores counting)... Their counter proposal is reducing the number of teams from 15 to 12, but keeping 4 riders per team. That would allow more nations to compete (with individuals).

 

 

This should be interesting. :p

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dcro    2,704

Just watching victory ceremony at the Stuttgart German Masters dressage Grand Prix... They are using Rio 2016 medal ceremony music. :hearts:

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dcro    2,704

It appears as though Olympic formats will be decided this Tuesday, the last day of General Assembly. Not much happened on the first two days. Most notably, :NED Rotterdam has been awarded the hosting rights for 2019 Euro in dressage and jumping.

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FEI General Assembly 2016: final debate before landmark Olympic vote in Tokyo

Olympic formats were the key topic at the FEI General Assembly session in the Japanese capital this afternoon ahead of tomorrow’s crucial vote on the proposals that will be submitted to the IOC on the formats for the three Olympic equestrian disciplines at the Tokyo 2020 Olympic Games. The format for the Paralympic Games in Tokyo were also up for discussion.

 

Close to 300 delegates, representing 76 of the FEI’s 134 National Federations, engaged in the final debate to conclude a two-year consultation process about proposed changes to the three disciplines designed to increase universality, one of the key requirements under Olympic Agenda 2020. A further 31 National Federations will be voting by proxy, increasing the number of votes to 107.

 

The proposals aim to make the equestrian events more readily understandable and packaged in a more compact format, engaging new fans through enhanced presentation of the sport.

 

The key proposals for change across the three Olympic disciplines – Jumping, Dressage and Eventing – and Para-Equestrian Dressage at the Paralympics are to have three athletes per team. The drop score, which previously allowed for a team’s worst score to be discarded, would be removed under the new proposals. The role of the reserve combination will be even more important and will be a key element in ensuring horse welfare.

 

These proposals will all be voted on together during tomorrow’s General Assembly, with the proposed discipline specific changes and the Paralympic revisions to be voted on separately.

 

Delegates at today’s session were given a final chance to debate the issues and opinions were voiced both for and against the proposals for change.

 

Ulf Helgstrand, President of the Danish National Federation, spoke strongly in favour of the new proposals. “We want excitement and more flags, and we have to make our sport more understandable. Which other sport can have a medal with an athlete that’s been disqualified? We will have much more excitement if one of the top countries or riders fails. This will give us more excitement and more flags.”

 

Natallia Kalesnikava, Executive Director of the Equestrian Federation of Belarus, received resounding applause for her comment. “We fully support this proposal, it gives a great opportunity for our country that’s been developing for the past 20 years to go to the Olympic Games. As soon as a country has the opportunity to participate in the Olympics, it has the support of its Government and sponsors, the chance to promote the sport and attract more young people. With this proposal you increase the number of countries to possibly 50 that would have the chance to raise their flag at the Olympic Games.”

 

German National Federation Secretary General Soenke Lauterbach spoke against, but made it very clear that Germany will respect the democratic process. “We understand the desire to get more universality in the Olympic and Paralympic Games, but it has to be balanced with the core principles of our sport, that we have top athletes, top level sport and in line with horse welfare requirements. We do not feel that with three per team we have the right balance of these three principles and that is why we will vote against tomorrow, but we will accept and work with whatever decision is made.”

 

The FEI President Ingmar De Vos provided details of the timeline for implementation of the Olympic formats prior to Tokyo 2020:

February 2017 – FEI proposals will go to the IOC Executive Board

May 2017 – IOC Programme Commission will make recommendations to the IOC Executive Board

July 2017 – IOC Executive Board meeting will decide on events and the quota November 2017 – FEI General Assembly in Montevideo (URU) will finalise the proposal for qualification procedures (quota distribution and eligibility)

 

Speaking after today’s session, the FEI President said: “We are a sport with 134 National Federations, and it’s correct that not all of them compete at elite level, but the development our sport has seen over the last decades as well as the recommendations of Olympic Agenda 2020 oblige us to focus on an increase in the number of participating nations within the existing quota. It is of course our role to get more National Federations to compete at the top level and to offer them an avenue for development. The decision is now in the hands of our National Federations and whatever way the vote goes tomorrow, we will make it a success.”

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dcro    2,704

Here we go, final decisions.

 

I just can't believe that they actually decided to make Olympic cross-country 3* instead of 4*... So Olympics basically won't be on the very top level. :wall: There isn't a huge difference between 3* and 4*, but Olympics are supposed to be the toughest event!!

 

Jumping

  • Teams of three horse/athlete combinations per nation, plus one reserve combination, no drop score
  • 20 teams (60 horse/athlete combinations)
  • 15 slots for nations not qualified with a team (maximum one  horse/athlete combination per nation)
  • Individual event will now take place before Team event
  • Cut-off score: the exact cut-off and resulting penalty will be finalised in the Olympic Regulations
  • The exact penalty for any horse/athlete combination that is eliminated, or does not complete their round for any reason, will be finalised in the Olympic Regulations

Dressage

  • Teams of three horse/athlete combinations per nation, no drop score
  • Each directly qualified team may bring a reserve rider/horse combination, or horse only
  • One individual per nation not represented by a qualified team (no composite teams)
  • Determine Team medals solely through results of Grand Prix Special (no longer a combination of Grand Prix and Grand Prix Special scores)
  • Introduce new “heat system” (including “lucky losers”) for Grand Prix: 18 individuals to qualify from Grand Prix to Grand Prix Freestyle (best two from each of the 6 heats, plus the next 6 with the best overall results) 
  • 8 top teams (24 starters) from Grand Prix to qualify for Grand Prix Special
  • Introduce new system for starting order in Grand Prix
  • Conduct Grand Prix Special to music

Eventing

  • Teams of three horse/athlete combinations per nation, no drop score
  • One reserve combination per team will be allowed. The reserve combination is an important element of the proposal in order to preserve horse welfare. If a reserve combination is substituted, it will incur a penalty for the team. The exact penalty will be finalised in the Olympic Regulations
  • Maximum of two individuals per nation not represented by a team
  • Order of tests to remain unchanged (1st Dressage; 2nd Cross Country; 3rd Jumping Team; 4th Jumping Individual)
  • Olympic Eventing to take place over three days (Dressage test reduced to one day)
  • Technical level of the three tests to be defined as the “Olympic level”: Dressage and Jumping 4*; Cross Country: 10-minute optimum time, 45 jumping efforts, and 3* technical difficulty
  • Qualification of athletes/horses to be achieved on the same Cross Country technical level to ensure implementation of the recommendations of the FEI Independent Audit in Eventing
  • For the purpose of the Team classification only: any horse/athlete combinations not completing a test can continue to the next test if accepted as fit to compete at the relevant Horse Inspection
  • For the purpose of the Team classification only: penalties for the non-completion of a test for any reason, Dressage =100 points, Cross Country = 150, Jumping = 100
  • Rules for the Individual event remain unchanged

Para-Equestrian Dressage

  • Teams of three horse/athlete combinations per nation, no drop score
  • Each directly qualified team is entitled to bring four horse/athlete combinations, of which three will have to be declared to compete on the team after the Individual Championships test, in which all four will compete as Individuals.
  • Maximum of two individuals per nation not represented by a team (no composite teams)
  • Determine Team medals solely through results of Team test (no longer a combination of Team and Individual test scores)
  • Top 8 per grade from the Individual test to qualify for the Freestyle test
  • Order of tests: Individual Championship test, Team test, Freestyle
  • Team test to be set to music

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dcro    2,704

Btw, @OlympicIRL if Ireland again fails to qualify a jumping team, then really... There are now as much as 20 team jumping quotas. :d

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heywoodu    3,217

I'm slightly confused: I thought the plan was to have teams of 3 combinations in the team events, but still a maximum of 4 combinations per nation in individual events? 

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dcro    2,704
26 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

I'm slightly confused: I thought the plan was to have teams of 3 combinations in the team events, but still a maximum of 4 combinations per nation in individual events? 

 

No, it was about cutting teams altogether from 4 to 3, including the individuals. It was mainly done to bring more flags.

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