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Athletics 2017 Discussion Thread

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dcro    1,017
2 hours ago, mrv86 said:

This weekend the city of Monterrey will host a stage of the 2017 Race Walk Challenge and they plan to apply this rule:

 

 

According to the organizers, this will only be the second time this format of a "penalty box" will be used, but is under consideration by IAAF to be used as the standard rule in future competitions.

 

Seems like a good idea.

 

However, I think this event is really struggling with modern times. Slow motion replays clearly show that basically everyone is cheating by having both feet in the air. Last time I watched it, commentator was trying to explain that cheating has to be seen by the human eye, but yeah... Rules in this sport are ambigous at best.

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mrv86    208
7 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Seems like a good idea.

 

However, I think this event is really struggling with modern times. Slow motion replays clearly show that basically everyone is cheating by having both feet in the air. Last time I watched it, commentator was trying to explain that cheating has to be seen by the human eye, but yeah... Rules in this sport are ambigous at best.

 

Exactly, every athlete fails to follow the proper walking technique at least in one ocassion, that's why everyone has quite fast registers nowadays :facepalm:

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Gianlu33    393
15 hours ago, mrv86 said:

According to the organizers, this will only be the second time this format of a "penalty box" will be used, but is under consideration by IAAF to be used as the standard rule in future competitions.

 

They want kill the race walking :facepalm:

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heywoodu    1,174
12 hours ago, dcro said:

 

Seems like a good idea.

 

However, I think this event is really struggling with modern times. Slow motion replays clearly show that basically everyone is cheating by having both feet in the air. Last time I watched it, commentator was trying to explain that cheating has to be seen by the human eye, but yeah... Rules in this sport are ambigous at best.

 

The bigger problem is with people who don't get the rules and say that everyone is cheating 'because the slow-motions clearly show that'. Nope, slow-motions don't show that someone is cheating because it has to be seen by the human eye indeed. And like race walkers themselves say: "Changing those rules would not be a problem, because then we would simply change our technique so that we are still within the rules." 

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dcro    1,017
13 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

The bigger problem is with people who don't get the rules and say that everyone is cheating 'because the slow-motions clearly show that'. Nope, slow-motions don't show that someone is cheating because it has to be seen by the human eye indeed. And like race walkers themselves say: "Changing those rules would not be a problem, because then we would simply change our technique so that we are still within the rules." 

 

"Visible by human eye" is not some exact term to be honest. :p

 

Everyone gets angry when judges don't see something in football or other team sports. It's just so that it happens all the time in race walking. :p

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heywoodu    1,174
1 minute ago, dcro said:

 

"Visible by human eye" is not some exact term to be honest. :p

 

Everyone gets angry when judges don't see something in football or other team sports. It's just so that it happens all the time in race walking. :p

True, and I think a whole lot of people, race walkers included, would like to see that changed and work with for example things like sensors (which are being developed and there are serious plans to have them in big competitions within a few years). It would shut up the people who don't get it and therefore say they are cheating all the time + it'd make it more fair and I'm pretty sure most would be in favour of that :p 

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dcro    1,017
12 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

True, and I think a whole lot of people, race walkers included, would like to see that changed and work with for example things like sensors (which are being developed and there are serious plans to have them in big competitions within a few years). It would shut up the people who don't get it and therefore say they are cheating all the time + it'd make it more fair and I'm pretty sure most would be in favour of that :p 

 

People get it, alright. It's the only sport where slow motion shows lies. It's like watching a slow motion replay in archery and seeing that an arrow went to 9 instead of 10. :p

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heywoodu    1,174
2 hours ago, dcro said:

 

People get it, alright. It's the only sport where slow motion shows lies. It's like watching a slow motion replay in archery and seeing that an arrow went to 9 instead of 10. :p

That's just really not the same, at all :d 

 

And no, people who are like "slow motion shows they're cheating!!" don't get it ;) 

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dareza    345

just wow :yikes: this is of course world u20 record. he has 17 :bowdown:

 

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heywoodu    1,174

Duplantis is an insane talent, also has the world records for 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12 years old :d 

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