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Speed Skating 2016 - 2017 Discussion Thread

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heywoodu    2,239
6 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Us, mere mortals, have ISU channel for that. :p

Oh, didn't know that existed too :d 

 

Edit: Wait, I do. I just forgot. I sometimes watch it when the most annoying of our annoying commentators is spewing his boring crap on the Dutch stream :p 

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heywoodu    2,239

Three Colombians in Harbin tomorrow :d 

 

Pedro Causil in the 500m B-division, just like last season. He seems to have improved a lot, so I hope he can qualify for the A-division. Andres Campo will debut in the mass start A-division after being in one B-race last season and Daniel Zapata will be in the mass start B-division :) 

http://live.isuresults.eu/2016-2017/harbin/

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heywoodu    2,239

As for today: little surprising win for Nao Kodaira in the women's 500m, where she and compatriot Maki Tsuji showed strong form already. All Dutch girls, Vanessa Herzog (ex-Bittner) and Hong Zhang were somewhat disappointing. 

 

Martina Sablikova of course won the 3000m, although Marije Joling, Ivanie Blondin and Antoinette de Jong gave a good fight. So did Ireen Wüst in a direct race against Sablikova, but as always, she lost too much time in the last 2 laps (she was ahead until then) :p 

 

Sven Kramer won the 5000m after of course a fight with Jorrit Bergsma :p  Erik Jan Kooiman had a nice fight with the very talented New Zealander Peter Michael and took 3rd place. 

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rybak    366

I don't know if it's an mistake or true (at least no news in our media) but it looks like Sebastian Druszkiewicz changed nationality to Czech :(

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hckosice    1,314
12 minutes ago, rybak said:

I don't know if it's an mistake or true (at least no news in our media) but it looks like Sebastian Druszkiewicz changed nationality to Czech :(

 

Yes he got Czech citizenship last year but ISU yet didn´t allowed him to compete untill this season.

 

edit: I see that he already competedlast January in Stavanger.

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heywoodu    2,239
11 minutes ago, rybak said:

I don't know if it's an mistake or true (at least no news in our media) but it looks like Sebastian Druszkiewicz changed nationality to Czech :(

He already competed for CZE since last season. Well, he didn't compete at all in all of 2015, but at the end of last season he started competing for CZE. I guess because he has been a member of Sablikova's team for quite a while now.

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rybak    366
3 minuty temu, hckosice napisał:

 

Yes he got Czech citizenship last year but ISU yet heven´t allowed him to compete untill this season.

 

2 minuty temu, heywoodu napisał:

He already competed for CZE since last season. Well, he didn't compete at all in all of 2015, but at the end of last season he started competing for CZE. I guess because he has been a member of Sablikova's team for quite a while now.

 

So sad, we lost good skater :( Hopefully he will feel good among Czechs and will get more chances for competing in World Cups.

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heywoodu    2,239
2 minutes ago, rybak said:

 

 

So sad, we lost good skater :( Hopefully he will feel good among Czechs and will get more chances for competing in World Cups.

Oh well, Szymanski, Niedzwiedski and Brodka are all (much) better to be honest. Druszkiewicz was/is not much more than just another name in the start lists: in the past 10 years he had only 32 individual World Cup starts and 31 of those were in the B-division. Poland actually loses...basically nothing in terms of results now that he's gone :p 

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rybak    366
4 minuty temu, heywoodu napisał:

Oh well, Szymanski, Niedzwiedski and Brodka are all (much) better to be honest. Druszkiewicz was/is not much more than just another name in the start lists: in the past 10 years he had only 32 individual World Cup starts and 31 of those were in the B-division. Poland actually loses...basically nothing in terms of results now that he's gone :p 

Yes, those three skaters are better than him, but he always was first reserved skater to team pursuit races, he said after Sochi that consider change the nationality because in both Vancouver and Sochi Games he not compete in team races, despite this that coach assured him that will compete in at least few races. And he competed in just few World Cups because our federation doesn't want give him chance.

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heywoodu    2,239
1 minute ago, rybak said:

Yes, those three skaters are better than him, but he always was first reserved skater to team pursuit races, he said after Sochi that consider change the nationality because in both Vancouver and Sochi Games he not compete in team races, despite this that coach assured him that will compete in at least few races. And he competed in just few World Cups because our federation doesn't want give him chance.

But whenever he got his chance, he didn't take it. Always finishing like 10th-20th or even higher in B-divisions, then you're just really, really far away from being close to a top level..

 

Don't get me wrong, it's always good to have a decent back-up for the team pursuit, but if the three who are much better don't get injured/sick/whatever, he isn't needed :p 

 

Of course it's weird to assure someone he'll race in the Olympics and then not give him a chance, but that doesn't change that in 10 years he just never really showed that he would be good enough to be more than one of the many B-division skaters :p 

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hckosice    1,314
7 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

But whenever he got his chance, he didn't take it. Always finishing like 10th-20th or even higher in B-divisions, then you're just really, really far away from being close to a top level..

 

Don't get me wrong, it's always good to have a decent back-up for the team pursuit, but if the three who are much better don't get injured/sick/whatever, he isn't needed :p 

 

Of course it's weird to assure someone he'll race in the Olympics and then not give him a chance, but that doesn't change that in 10 years he just never really showed that he would be good enough to be more than one of the many B-division skaters :p 

 

well, if he had chosen SVK, he would be already our most succesful and best speed skater of the whole history :d but yeah,,who would have chosen SVK ?:d

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