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Cross-Country Skiing 2016 - 2017 Discussion Thread

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A little over two weeks until the South Americans are fighting for their big FIS points to help in their goals to qualify for Pyeongchang 2018. Athletes from Brazil, Argentina and Chile will compete in several roller skiing competitions in São Carlos :)

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Sneakily moving the discussion out of the biathlon thread to here... :p 

 

@dcro, which part of the qualifying document specifies that in order to get 2 female (or male, but in this case I'm talking about female) athletes in XC, both athletes have to be in the top-300 of the distance/sprint FIS list and have to have less than 100 FIS points? I don't really see that part, so it's not that I'm doubting what you said, I just want to be certain before I contact CBDN about it and be able to point them to some document or something :mumble:

http://comiteolimpicoportugal.pt/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2016-03-09-PyeongChang-2018-Qualification-System-Cross-Country-Skiing-V1.pdf

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Sneakily moving the discussion out of the biathlon thread to here... :p 

 

@dcro, which part of the qualifying document specifies that in order to get 2 female (or male, but in this case I'm talking about female) athletes in XC, both athletes have to be in the top-300 of the distance/sprint FIS list and have to have less than 100 FIS points? I don't really see that part, so it's not that I'm doubting what you said, I just want to be certain before I contact CBDN about it and be able to point them to some document or something :mumble:

http://comiteolimpicoportugal.pt/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/2016-03-09-PyeongChang-2018-Qualification-System-Cross-Country-Skiing-V1.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

Here it says

 

http://image.prntscr.com/image/81434ea127614dbb912c2630a5db9774.png

 

So you can have an athlete with B standard only if they have no one with A standard.

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1 minute ago, dcro said:

 

Here it says

 

http://image.prntscr.com/image/81434ea127614dbb912c2630a5db9774.png

 

So you can have an athlete with B standard only if they have no one with A standard.

 

NOCs that do not have at least 1 athlete with A-standard can send 1 athlete with B-standard. That's clear.

 

But I don't see anything about NOCs that do have at least 1 athlete with A-standard (like Brazil if everything goes right and they have 1 athlete with A standard). I mean, I don't see where NOCs that have 1 or more athletes with the A-standard are excluded from sending someone with the B-standard. This can also be due to my lack of ability to read exactly what they mean in this kind of long rules :p 

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Any news about Sundby, is he banned for the upcomming season?

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5 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

 

NOCs that do not have at least 1 athlete with A-standard can send 1 athlete with B-standard. That's clear.

 

But I don't see anything about NOCs that do have at least 1 athlete with A-standard (like Brazil if everything goes right and they have 1 athlete with A standard). I mean, I don't see where NOCs that have 1 or more athletes with the A-standard are excluded from sending someone with the B-standard. This can also be due to my lack of ability to read exactly what they mean in this kind of long rules :p 

 

What's so puzzling? :p

 

"NOCs that do not have at least 1 athlete with A-standard can send 1 athlete with B-standard." If you have then you can't, if you don't have then you can. :d

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3 minutes ago, Federer91 said:

Any news about Sundby, is he banned for the upcomming season?

 

There is no news to be expected anymore after CAS already ruled earlier this year :p

 

He lost the 2014/15 World Cup title and Tour de Ski victory (because the results of 2 races were scrapped) and was banned for 2 months starting in July, meaning he missed the incredibly important months of July, August and part of September :lol:

 

 

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4 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

What's so puzzling? :p

 

"NOCs that do not have at least 1 athlete with A-standard can send 1 athlete with B-standard." If you have then you can't, if you don't have then you can. :d

 

Well, yeah :p

 

I thought it would be explicitly written that athletes who have someone with the A-standard can not have an athlete with the B-standard :p 

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So to get it all straight: for Brazil to get a 2nd women's quota, they have to have 2 women who have to be both in the top-300 and have less than 100 FIS points? Well that's gonna be hard :cry:

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By the way, how about this :p

 

1150b910c8.png

 

One additional quota place...doesn't that mean that every NOC with at least 1 athlete in the top-300 gets the basic quota plus the additional quota place, meaning a total of two quota places? 

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10 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

By the way, how about this :p

 

1150b910c8.png

 

One additional quota place...doesn't that mean that every NOC with at least 1 athlete in the top-300 gets the basic quota plus the additional quota place, meaning a total of two quota places? 

 

"Additional" doesn't mean "additional to the basic quota". :p It's one additional provided that they have enough with athletes A standard.

 

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11 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

"Additional" doesn't mean "additional to the basic quota". :p It's one additional provided that they have enough with athletes A standard.

 

 

Right, smart idea from FIS/IOC to use words/sentences that can be explained in two totally different ways :whistle:

 

Thanks :d 

 

Well, not really " :d " because it's actually rather grim news.. 

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Qualifying for 2014 seems to have been basically the same, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-country_skiing_at_the_2014_Winter_Olympics_–_Qualification

 

How come Armenia could send 2 men, when they only had 1 athlete in the top-300 of the FIS Points List (distance)? 

 

Edit: Wait, the other athlete Armenia sent was 748th on the FIS Points List, but had only 86 FIS points, so he did have the A-standard..

I've rarely seen a qualifying system so insanely complicated..now I just really lost track of what this whole top-300 thing means and why "additional" has such a weird meaning. 

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11 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Qualifying for 2014 seems to have been basically the same, right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-country_skiing_at_the_2014_Winter_Olympics_–_Qualification

 

How come Armenia could send 2 men, when they only had 1 athlete in the top-300 of the FIS Points List (distance)? 

 

Edit: Wait, the other athlete Armenia sent was 748th on the FIS Points List, but had only 86 FIS points, so he did have the A-standard..

I've rarely seen a qualifying system so insanely complicated..now I just really lost track of what this whole top-300 thing means and why "additional" has such a weird meaning. 

 

Yep, <100 FIS points means A standard, not top-300.

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