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Iran National Thread | به سوی توکیو 2020

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MHSN    190

Rio 2016 Olympic Team

 

Archery (1)

Women's Individual - Zahra Nemati

 

Athletics (10)

Men's 100m - Hassan Taftian

Men's 100m - Reza Ghasemi

Men's Marathon - Mohammad Jafar Moradi

Men's 20km Walk - Hamid Reza Zouravand

Men's Long Jump - Mohammad Arzandeh

Men's Discus Throw - Ehsan Haddadi

Men's Discus Throw - Mahmoud Samimi

Men's Hammer Throw - Pejman Ghalehnoei

Men's Hammer Throw - Kaveh Mousavi

Women's Shot Put - Leila Rajabi

 

Boxing (1)

Men's 81kg - Ehsan Rouzbahani

 

Canoeing Sprint (1)

Men's C1 200m - Adel Mojallali

 

Cycling Road (3)

Men's Road Race and Individual Time Trial - Ghader Mizbani

Men's Road Race - Arvin Moazzami

Men's Road Race - Samad Pourseyedi

 

Fencing (2)

Men's Individual Sabre - Mojtaba Abedini

Men's Individual Sabre - Ali Pakdaman

 

Judo (3)

Men's 66kg - Alireza Khojasteh

Men's 81kg - Saeid Mollaei

Men's 100kg - Javad Mahjoub

 

Rowing (1)

Women's Single Sculls - Mahsa Javar

 

Shooting (5)

Men's 10m Air Rifle, Men's 50m Rifle Prone and Men's 50m Rifle 3 Positions - Pouria Norouzian

Women's 10m Air Rifle - Elaheh Ahmadi

Women's 10m Air Rifle and Women's 50m Rifle 3 Positions - Najmeh Khedmati

Women's 50m Rifle 3 Positions - Mahlagha Jambozorg

Women's 10m Air Pistol, Women's 25m Pistol - Golnoush Sebghatollahi

 

Swimming (1)

Men's 200m Breaststroke - Aria Nasimi Shad

 

Table Tennis (3)

Men's Singles - Nima Alamian

Men's Singles - Noshad Alamian

Women's Singles - Neda Shahsavari

 

Taekwondo (4)

Men's 58kg - Farzan Ashourzadeh

Men's 80kg - Mehdi Khodabakhshi

Men's +80kg - Sajjad Mardani

Women's 57kg - Kimia Alizadeh

 

Volleyball (12)

Men's Team

 

Weightlifting (5)

Men's 85kg - Kianoush Rostami

Men's 94kg - Ali Hashemi

Men's 94kg - Sohrab Moradi

Men's 105kg - Mohammad Reza Barari

Men's +105kg - Behdad Salimi

 

Wrestling (12)

Men's 57kg Freestyle - Hassan Rahimi

Men's 65kg Freestyle - Meisam Nassiri

Men's 74kg Freestyle - Hassan Yazdani

Men's 86kg Freestyle - Alireza Karimi

Men's 97kg Freestyle - Reza Yazdani

Men's 125kg Freestyle - Komeil Ghasemi

Men's 59kg Greco-Roman - Hamid Sourian

Men's 66kg Greco-Roman - Omid Norouzi

Men's 75kg Greco-Roman - Saeid Abdevali

Men's 85kg Greco-Roman - Habibollah Akhlaghi

Men's 98kg Greco-Roman - Ghasem Rezaei

Men's 130kg Greco-Roman - Bashir Babajanzadeh

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MHSN    190

A bit about selection process:

 

in Athletics and Boxing, whoever wins the quota should to go Rio without any question

in Archery, Shooting, whoever wins the quota most probably will be sent to Rio,

in Taekwondo, those who qualified through ranking can only be replaced by someone in top 20, in this case Iran has athletes in top 20 in all 3 weights but coaches made it clear than Ashourzadeh, Khodabakhshi and Mardani will go to Rio unless they get injured.

in Cycling, they will announce them after the Cycling season in Iran,

in Weightlifting, they will announce the team few weeks before the games, right now they have 15 weightlifters in the camp but likes of Rostami and Moradi are already safe.

in Wrestling, they had series of trial events and after that they announced a very short list of wrestlers for the final trials in April. in freestyle it will be mostly between two wrestlers in each weight except for 86kg where 4 wrestlers are in the list. also in 125kg they won the quota just today, I'm 99% sure it will be a wrestle-off between Hadi and Ghasemi. in Greco-Roman Abdevali is already selected, we will have a wrestle-off in 98kg and in 85kg, there are 6 wrestlers in the list to wrestle for the spot. beside that they won the 66kg quota just today, I will wait to know their decision about it.

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ledon    6

Madness in iranian weightlifting continues. Sajad Anoushiravani just became coach of our weightlifting team. A guy who won the silver medal in the last Olympics and has no experience at all in coaching:facepalm:. I have no words to describe how stuipid this decision is.

 

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heywoodu    2,239
7 minutes ago, ledon said:

Madness in iranian weightlifting continues. Sajad Anoushiravani just became coach of our weightlifting team. A guy who won the silver medal in the last Olympics and has no experience at all in coaching:facepalm:. I have no words to describe how stuipid this decision is.

 

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Who was the previous coach? 

 

How are the relationships/workings in Iranian weightlifting? For example, in Dutch speed skating there's commercial teams (like in cycling) who of course all have their own coaches, and a "national coach" who mostly doesn't have a lot of real power because the athletes train with their commercial teams. 

 

I seem to remember there are different camps who are strongly opposed to each other in Iranian weightlifting?

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MHSN    190
40 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Who was the previous coach? 

 

How are the relationships/workings in Iranian weightlifting? For example, in Dutch speed skating there's commercial teams (like in cycling) who of course all have their own coaches, and a "national coach" who mostly doesn't have a lot of real power because the athletes train with their commercial teams. 

 

I seem to remember there are different camps who are strongly opposed to each other in Iranian weightlifting?

 

That's a LONG story. we had 4 different coaches in past 4 years.

 

Kourosh Bagheri led the team to win 4 medals in London, before that Coup d'état in 2013. he had to send a very young team which still finished 3rd with a silver medal and four 4th-place finishes. he resigned later, he had a heart attack and could not handle all those pressure on him anymore. they appointed another coach "Bahman Zare" who was NOT successful in 2014 Asian Games and 2014 Worlds then they replaced him with the mastermind of that Coup d'état 2000 Olympic Champion "Hossein Tavakkoli" !! Tavakkoli was junior team coach when some of these athletes were junior and provoked them against his former teammate Bagheri. Those weightlifters love Tavakkoli because he gave them so much freedom ! they could stay for the night, playing play station etc.

 

later we had some changes inside the federation and the new president probably didn't want to work with Tavakkoli but had no other option since they had only limitted time before the 2015 worlds which turned out to be disastrous for Iran ! thanks to his training, we got so many injured weightlifters. most importantly Mohammadpour and Salimi, Ironically they didn't fire Tavakoli after his poor results in USA, but they fired him few months later, only few months before Rio !

 

even though they appointed Anoushiravani as the head coach but they also hired a Bulgarian coach probably to supervise him.

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heywoodu    2,239
56 minutes ago, MHSN said:

 

That's a LONG story. we had 4 different coaches in past 4 years.

 

Kourosh Bagheri led the team to win 4 medals in London, before that Coup d'état in 2013. he had to send a very young team which still finished 3rd with a silver medal and four 4th-place finishes. he resigned later, he had a heart attack and could not handle all those pressure on him anymore. they appointed another coach "Bahman Zare" who was NOT successful in 2014 Asian Games and 2014 Worlds then they replaced him with the mastermind of that Coup d'état 2000 Olympic Champion "Hossein Tavakkoli" !! Tavakkoli was junior team coach when some of these athletes were junior and provoked them against his former teammate Bagheri. Those weightlifters love Tavakkoli because he gave them so much freedom ! they could stay for the night, playing play station etc.

 

later we had some changes inside the federation and the new president probably didn't want to work with Tavakkoli but had no other option since they had only limitted time before the 2015 worlds which turned out to be disastrous for Iran ! thanks to his training, we got so many injured weightlifters. most importantly Mohammadpour and Salimi, Ironically they didn't fire Tavakoli after his poor results in USA, but they fired him few months later, only few months before Rio !

 

even though they appointed Anoushiravani as the head coach but they also hired a Bulgarian coach probably to supervise him.

Ah right, I remember you writing about the athletes getting way too much freedom. If I'm remembering correctly, Salimi was among those who preferred to stay up at night playing PlayStation? 

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MHSN    190
52 minutes ago, heywoodu said:

Ah right, I remember you writing about the athletes getting way too much freedom. If I'm remembering correctly, Salimi was among those who preferred to stay up at night playing PlayStation? 

 

Yep indeed he was, he got seriously injured weeks before 2015 Worlds, (video of his injury is available on the net) under training program of his favorite coach Tavakoli, he is back after a knee surgery and started his training only yesterday, it's not clear if he can recover to his old shape in time for Rio or not. at the moment I don't count on him.

 

at the moment Iran has only 1+1 medal chances, Kianoush Rostami and Sohrab Moradi (and i know you won't like him as a former doper !). Moradi is back after a 2 years (and plus) suspension. since the previous federation announced his retirement to IWF , he could not particpiate even after the suspension, he is supposed to be clear to compete in couple of months but the problem is he has to compete in two IWF sanctioned event before Rio to become eligible. he will miss the Asian Champs, but can participate in IWF Grand Prix in Tehran . still needs one more tournament which apparently IWF will invite him for Pan-American Championship in Colombia ! that's what Tamas Ajan (IWF president) promised to the Iran federation.

 

ps, Moradi's training record was something +20kg more than Gold medalists record in World Championship.

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heywoodu    2,239
7 hours ago, MHSN said:

 

Yep indeed he was, he got seriously injured weeks before 2015 Worlds, (video of his injury is available on the net) under training program of his favorite coach Tavakoli, he is back after a knee surgery and started his training only yesterday, it's not clear if he can recover to his old shape in time for Rio or not. at the moment I don't count on him.

 

at the moment Iran has only 1+1 medal chances, Kianoush Rostami and Sohrab Moradi (and i know you won't like him as a former doper !). Moradi is back after a 2 years (and plus) suspension. since the previous federation announced his retirement to IWF , he could not particpiate even after the suspension, he is supposed to be clear to compete in couple of months but the problem is he has to compete in two IWF sanctioned event before Rio to become eligible. he will miss the Asian Champs, but can participate in IWF Grand Prix in Tehran . still needs one more tournament which apparently IWF will invite him for Pan-American Championship in Colombia ! that's what Tamas Ajan (IWF president) promised to the Iran federation.

 

ps, Moradi's training record was something +20kg more than Gold medalists record in World Championship.

Moradi got suspended for doping, then came back and lifted 20kg more than the world champion? Yeah, you're right about me not liking him :d 

I remember Salimi's injury, that looked horribly painful to watch...

 

Are there some Iranian weightlifters (of a decent level of course) who are actually "down to earth" guys instead of "divas" like Salimi? 

 

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MHSN    190
1 hour ago, heywoodu said:

Moradi got suspended for doping, then came back and lifted 20kg more than the world champion? Yeah, you're right about me not liking him :d 

I remember Salimi's injury, that looked horribly painful to watch...

 

Are there some Iranian weightlifters (of a decent level of course) who are actually "down to earth" guys instead of "divas" like Salimi? 

 

 

Yes he did, there are videos of him on the net lifting 200 + 240 . (probably few kg heavier than 94kg and that was in training but still this record is 35kg higher than 94kg gold medalist.

 

I have to say, with the exception of Salimi, Rostami and Nasirshalal (London silver medalist) the rest are OK, they were 5 but one of them Anoushiravani (who is now the head coach) rarely participated in their coup and Mohammadpour was just a kid (poor guy had a serious elbow injury which can even end his career) I can name Molaei (2013 world silver) or Taghian, even Moradi or Babari if you count dopers lol they didn't get into all these stories and stay out of them.

 

btw it will be hard for Iran to find 5 competitive weightlifters this time (back in Rio we had 6 medal favorites and won 4 medals) Rostami will take one of the spots, Moradi too if he gets cleared by IWF, I hope for Molaei but he also had a surgery back in 2014 and I'm not aware of his current shape.as for Salimi we have to wait couple of months to know his new situation. I think they will also send someone in 105kg, maybe Barari. or Nasirshalal or Kourosh Bagheri's nephew Emad Bagheri.

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heywoodu    2,239
9 hours ago, MHSN said:

 

Yes he did, there are videos of him on the net lifting 200 + 240 . (probably few kg heavier than 94kg and that was in training but still this record is 35kg higher than 94kg gold medalist.

 

I have to say, with the exception of Salimi, Rostami and Nasirshalal (London silver medalist) the rest are OK, they were 5 but one of them Anoushiravani (who is now the head coach) rarely participated in their coup and Mohammadpour was just a kid (poor guy had a serious elbow injury which can even end his career) I can name Molaei (2013 world silver) or Taghian, even Moradi or Babari if you count dopers lol they didn't get into all these stories and stay out of them.

 

btw it will be hard for Iran to find 5 competitive weightlifters this time (back in Rio we had 6 medal favorites and won 4 medals) Rostami will take one of the spots, Moradi too if he gets cleared by IWF, I hope for Molaei but he also had a surgery back in 2014 and I'm not aware of his current shape.as for Salimi we have to wait couple of months to know his new situation. I think they will also send someone in 105kg, maybe Barari. or Nasirshalal or Kourosh Bagheri's nephew Emad Bagheri.

Thanks! It's always interesting to read more about the insights of this :)

 

 

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