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Not sure if it deserves it, but Barcelona is looking (again) to big for the 2030 games. They don't plan to built a sledding track, but to use the one we have in France.

https://www.lavanguardia.com/economia/management/20190104/453927951140/olimpiadas-pirineus-barcelona-2030.html

Final 

Too bad, it doesn't count yet for Tokyo qualifications.

Il y a 1 heure , heywoodu a déclaré:

You do know rugby union very much has a World Cup? 

Since 1987, before that it developed an international game that any sport bar a few could ever dream of. Same with cricket.

World cup/championship is not, nor it should be, the only option when we are talking about international sport.

il y a 4 minutes, Olympian1010 a déclaré:

This isn’t a World Cup for starters and it’s the only major international bandy competition, so it’s definitely important and necessary 

Fine, world championship... 

It's a very short view to believe that every team sport should have a world cup/championship just because the major team sports have one. Something makes sense or doesn't. This doesn't. There is nothing necessary about this world championship.

Not having a world cup/championship doesn't mean either you are cutting the sport from international matches. There are other ways. Take rugby union for most of this life as an exemple.

I don't really understand why every team sports under the sunlight should have a world cup. Many sports are clearly not international spread enough to warrant one. It should be ok not to have a world cup. This is not helping anyone.

Just have yearly test series between the few countries who can actually play the sport, and a developpement world cup for the rest of the field.

il y a 59 minutes, Olympian1010 a déclaré:

Nope, but there was a small talk around bandy

That was more like bandy talking to itself about inclunding bandy at the olympics.

il y a 2 minutes, heywoodu a déclaré:

That might not be necessary, considering one other continent already has medal candidates and another one is well on it's way to having them within a few years  Might help in getting enough interest to have one rink

 

Plus an indoor sports hall can always be used anywhere, if not for any ice sport there's a ton of other sports one can do inside. Sliding tracks are a much bigger issue, which is why I referred to the plan of having ice-like plastic modular tracks that could be built - and after the event moved somewhere else - for a fraction of the current prices.

Do you have a link on that ?

If you want a winter olympic outside of Europe/ East Asia/ N-A you'd probably need to get rid first of the sledding and skating sports 

Il y a 1 heure , AlFHg a déclaré:

 The real economic trouble in organizing the Olympics, in my view, mainly stands in two things: infrastructures and venues. If IOC reduces its requirements for venues, it may happen that the interest for organizing the Olympics increases, because, after all, IOC gives nearly 1 Billion $ as organizing contribute, definitely not low.

If by requirements, you mean venues capacity. I don't believe it would make much of a difference. Many of the stands used are temporary nowadays (and are dirt cheap), and no one is going to build a 10,000 seats permanent ballpark anymore when there are hardly 10 baseball players in the whole country (Athens, hi)

Besides, we have seen with Sion, that even a bid with no building requirements could fail. The problem goes deeper than that.

il y a 19 minutes, Dunadan a déclaré:

 

Just as a comparison, I've had a look at the 2016 balance sheet of the Italian Basketball Federation on their website...it looks like they paid 2.5 million € to FIBA for a men's OQT ...according to the press, they had to offer at least 1.7 million in order to bid.

 

Whaaaaaaaaaaaat ?! that's fucking insane. That's robery, plain and simple.

Aparently, FIVB is asking $500K to host any of these tournaments. If so, then, there is no other word to call it but a fraud.

I'm hopping that the IOC will step in at some point to stop this madness. OQT should not be used in any maner to bring back money into IFs pocket.

https://www.onet.pl/?utm_source=sport_viasg&utm_medium=nitro&utm_campaign=allonet_nitro_new&srcc=ucs&pid=4c142e8b-25d6-48b1-ab83-b52b941845c7&sid=96fc7e4d-c74c-44d9-ab11-c24e6131b623&utm_v=2

IOC is also making a profit staging sports that doesn't cost much to have (infrastuctures and quotas wise). Which is defintly the case of squash. That's a - very - important part of the equation.

Squash is not an huge money maker, but it does make money (which means there are people who cares about it somewhere), more so than quite a few olympic sports.

Unfortunatly for you, that Monzanator has or has not watched any given sport in his lifetime is not (yet) an official critera for olympic inclusion.

il y a 42 minutes, Monzanator a déclaré:

I'd rather have boxing & wrestling than squash tbh. Won't fight the fanboys of the sport here

Yeah, sure...

I, for one, have zero interest in this sport, but I can distinguish (or at least trying) between one sport and another whithout relying on personnal/national biases...

Il y a 1 heure , Monzanator a déclaré:

Squash? That's like a niche sport. Who actually plays that on pro level? IOC needed decades to have tennis back and squash is probably even less important than badminton?

If squash is niche, then a good amount of olympic sports is niche also. Squash actually has a pro tier whithout even being an olympic sport, contrary to some olympic sports who would be dead in a week if it was not for their olympic statut.

Il y a 9 heures , intoronto a déclaré:

I disagree. Squash is probably one of the favourites to go on to the program. It has 3 positives:

1) Venue costs are low, and in theory can fit.share into a venue already later in the competition.

2) France has a top 10 ranked player in men's and women's

3) The athlete quota is only 64, gender neutral and can fit into the current program.

4) Could be set up in any iconic parisian landmak

5) Has a relative good youth appeal (it isn't skateboarding, but it's not pétanque either)

6) The international federation has a french president (can't hurt)

It's basically thicking every boxes . BUT, it's squash, they should allready be in, yet they failed multiple times. They proved how shit they are at lobying the olympic mouvement. So who knows.

il y a 13 minutes, Olympian1010 a déclaré:

No thank you. I’d prefer squash

It's probably way too late and it's not going to happen but basque pelota finally reminds itself that it doesn't cost anything to at least trying

https://www.francebleu.fr/sports/tous-les-sports/la-pelote-basque-aux-jeux-olympiques-1548337246

Red Star should make the best of it before they are asked £500K just to particpate 

il y a 12 minutes, NaBUru38 a déclaré:

The FIH should have used the FIVB Nations League format, where the regular season is played over 5 weeks, and each country hosts a group once or twice.

Which is exactly what they don't want.

The only point of the Pro League is for teams to have regular home games and to cultivate a fan base.

Watching Karate for the very first time ever

Can Desthieux reach the world cup podium without making a sole podium of the season ?

#history

Il y a 10 heures , thepharoah a déclaré:

 

France is always very dangerous when it comes to finals , they know how to win these matches very well , if i was them i'd prefer to rest some players and to avoid playing with Denmark and Germany at home , as the host always get some help from referees , so it's much better to play Denmark in Semis in Hamburg rather than playing them in Denmark , ofc it's just a guess i can't say they did that on purpose 

Unlikely, AFAIK, they've never done it on purpose and they didn't do it against Russia during the first group wich would have give them a slighty better schedule for the second round.

I believe, they didn't really care one way or the another, and that was obvious on the court.

Edit: one of the most amazing statistic about this team: since Beijing 08, out of the 28 KO games they played, they won 25 of them 

il y a 13 minutes, SalamAkhi a déclaré:

De beaux résultats aujourd'hui en ski de fond, short track et surtout en bob : Romain Heinrich et Dorian Hauterville 3emes des championnats d'Europe en bob à 2 

Première médaille internationale depuis 2002 

10 minutes ago, dcro said:

 

Not really. Quota allocation would need to be expanded to reach 12,000, while for reaching 10,500 some cuts are necessary. Just say no to further expansion and that's it.

They already have done that with the 10,500 quotas... and already failed with Tokyo. If they bring the quotas up once again, they would have proved how weak they are and incapable to stick with a number.

The quotas ever increase has to - really - stop at some point.